February 11, 2015

At the Deep Green Café...

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... you can talk about anything you want.

38 comments:

tim in vermont said...

Big Richard Dawkins fan and on-line critic of religions of all kinds, loud mouth atheist kills three Muslims in Chapel Hill.

Maybe we should do a roll call of our commenters here and make sure all of our friends are still around?

Paul Mac said...

Anyone seen this?

Just thought it was interesting and might be appropriate to share here as it came from a WI public school apparently.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/02/249351-immigration-school-assignment/

tim in vermont said...

@Paul Mac

Yeah,but teachers jobs must be protected at all costs.

Freeman Hunt said...

Tim, I went to the killer's Facebook page, and he has post after post denouncing violence in the name of religion. I guess he never did say anything about violence not in the name of religion. Maybe he meant to be an activist against certain motivations but not against violence generally.

Tank said...

Nobody expects the atheist inquisition!

m stone said...

If you denounce violence in the name of religion (emphasis on "in the name..."), that frees the individual to exercise "justice" by using violence against the religionists. In his mind. And it is logical in a perverted way.

I don't like to use "religionists" but it fits here.

The Hicks media narrative is in trouble.

tim in vermont said...

@Paul Mac

I had a Social Studies teacher in High School, Mr Hipp, who explained to us that Republicans were generally stupid, at the time I was a Democrat, a left leaning one at that, but the comment stuck with me as being pretty unfair.

tim in vermont said...

@Freeman Hunt,

On Twitter they are blaming the killings on American Sniper.

Anonymous said...

U.S. Marines handing over their weapons to pissants in Yemen?

Hagar said...

And the order to do that apparently came from the State Department.

This is bad.

P.S.
Should not State request that DoD issue any such orders?
Do they even pretend anymore?

Hagar said...

We do not need "a statement of the administration's strategy with regard to ISIS."
We need a statement of its strategy with regard to the area south of Europe, north of the Equator, and stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to the Chinese border.

Anonymous said...

Hagar said...

Should not State request that DoD issue any such orders?

an Embassy Guard takes all instructions from the DoS Diplomatic Security Staff in country...

Hagar said...

If they are worried about "giving the jihadists recruiting tools,"why did they hand them this?

Humperdink said...

I see the Little League World Series champs from Team Zero's hometown of Chicago were stripped of their title for ...... wait for it ..... cheating.

Back in the day, it was called using "ringers".

I suspect The Most Reverend Al has already booked a flight.

Revenant said...

Big Richard Dawkins fan and on-line critic of religions of all kinds, loud mouth atheist kills three Muslims in Chapel Hill.

My right-wing Facebook friends are spamming me about that while my left-wing Facebook friends spam me about the lesbian woman who was tortured nearly to death by a guy screaming "God hates fags".

Both groups seem to think this proves their point about how some group they already hated poses a dire threat. Partisans are really predictable people.

YoungHegelian said...

@Revenant,

Here's the link to the tortured lesbian/.

Chased a dog down an alley at 3:00AM. Attacked by someone who just happens to be out at 3:AM & hurls anti-lesbian slurs. Wrote "dyke" on her body. Escaped dog returns to frighten off attacker. In Tacoma, Washington. Only source of story is Addicting Info.

I mean, what's not to believe here?

Seriously, if your lefty friends think this stands a chance in hell of being true, they're ever more credulous than my lefty FB friends, which is saying something.

Revenant said...

YoungHegelian,

Sure, her story could be fake, just like the police could be correct in thinking that the victims' religion wasn't the motivating factor in the NC killings.

I refer you to my comment about how predictable partisans are. It doesn't matter if the story is true -- people just want a reason to express hate and fear about people they already hate and fear.

Annie said...

So wealthy tax dodgers of the scandal plagued Swiss bank, have contributed up to $81 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.....while she says the following (and is expected to make inequality an issue in '16):
"
“One of the issues that I have been preaching about around the world is collecting taxes in an equitable manner, especially from the elites in every country,” Hillary Clinton said at the Clinton Global Initiative in 2012, while still Secretary of State. “[The elites]… do not contribute to the growth of their own countries. They don’t invest in public schools, in public hospitals, in other kinds of development internally.”

We all know she's a liar and loves her some cash, even if it comes from sponsors of terror, but is it dishonesty you can forgive?

*wonders if anyone found what happened to the Haiti money*

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/10/hillary-clinton-foundation-donors-hsbc-swiss-bank

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traditionalguy said...

Hot air has a world map showing where The Holocaust is taught and where it is forbidden non history. Guess what Super-Pope Francis' Argentine guys do. No is teaching allowed there about an industrial slaughter of Jews by Germans. They don't want to offend the Nazi war criminals who fled there after WWII with Catholic Church help.

wildswan said...

Over at the Temple of Mut half way down the page is a video with beautiful harp music, the best I ever heard. So I opened Althouse in new tab and looked at the picture here while I listened to the music from there.

https://templeofmut.wordpress.com/

Jane the Actuary said...

Here's what I can't figure out about the Chapel Hill killings: the reports are that the man turned himself in a few hours after the shootings.

Now, maybe this is police-speak and is used quite generically to mean anything from "he walked into the police station and said, 'I'm your man'" to "police had him surrounded and he surrendered when it was clear that he couldn't escape." But it doesn't seem like it was the latter, as there was no report of a dramatic chase or of eyewitness sightings.

Did he just "lose it" and then have such remorse afterwards that he didn't try to hide? But who does that? Was the "parking dispute" something that extended further into mentally-ill paranoia? From the press-conference hints, one imagines that his defense will be that of insanity.

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

Wife started replacing the morning coffee with yerba mate. We found a nice French press on Amazon for brewing. The mate is available there too.

YoungHegelian said...

They don't want to offend the Nazi war criminals who fled there after WWII with Catholic Church help.

Because, of course, the governments of Spain, Italy, Portugal, Switzerland, Germany, Brazil, Paraguay, US & British Intelligence, & most especially the fascist leaning government of Peronist Argentina had absolutely nothing to do with the ratlines of Axis war criminals getting to Argentina. It was just the Catholic Church, right?

I'll tell you what, tradguy, after you wake up tomorrow morning and take your putz pill like always, why don't you look up what's called the sin of omission in Calvin's Institutes. I'm sure he'll have something to say about it that you might want to heed.

chickelit said...

Is that duckweed in the photo?

Is that normal this time of year?

Is the stream warmed somehow?

Jimmy said...

Wondering same thing-why so green in just the pathway like area. beautiful photo.

Jamal Uddin said...

What a picture. I like it yaarr. Download Bollywood Songs

Saint Croix said...

So I'm looking at my art hanging on my walls, and I'm going, "What blue is that?" I could not remember the name of the damn blue I used. You think blue is blue? Wait till you paint something. There are all kinds of blue.

The only blue I could remember was Cobalt blue. It's not Cobalt blue. I was 90% sure it was not Cobalt blue. I remember that blue because I bought it and it sucks so bad. My brain remembers the bad, shitty blue that I bought that one time. The beautiful blue, that slips my mind. Awesome!

Cobalt is not actually a shitty blue. I don't want to confuse you with brown images. Cobalt blue is a pale, sucky blue.

Anyway, I had to get on the internet to track down the name of the damn paint I used ten years ago. Has it been ten years? Cripes.

It's ultramarine blue. Of course!

Or, wait, was it French Ultramarine Blue?

I like Cobalt blue on the internet, but in real life I am not a fan. When it comes to blue, do not trust the internet.

And I wander over to Althouse and she's off in greenland. Green! Whatever.

dustbunny said...

Saint Croix, cobalt blue is a deep, rich, intense blue, maybe you are thinking of cerulean blue which is paler.

tim in vermont said...

I refer you to my comment about how predictable partisans are. It doesn't matter if the story is true -- people just want a reason to express hate and fear about people they already hate and fear.

Except I don't fear and hate Richard Dawkins loving thread spammers on the subject of religious caused hatred.

I just think they are ridiculous and any chance to demonstrate the utter vapidness of their POV is delicious.

As far as the police saying it wasn't religiously motivated. Sure, whatever gets you through the night.

Clyde said...

The article I read about the Chapel Hill killer had his neighbors saying that he was pretty much an equal-opportunity hater. I say give him a one-way trip to Syria and let the ISIS wackjobs handle it in their own pointed way.

Clyde said...

Regarding the Chicago Little League team being stripped of their title, a friend in Chicago sent me a link to the story, telling me how sad it made her.

I replied:

"It's really kind of a sign of the times, isn't it? The ends justify the means. We live in a country where the corrupt administration sics the IRS and spy agencies on its domestic political enemies and foreign allies. What other lesson were the Chicago Little League leaders supposed to learn? It's not illegal if you get away with it, or at least can stonewall until you leave office. Then you take the Fifth, like that scuzzy IRS woman did."

chickelit said...

@St Croix & dustbunny: Here are fifty shades of cerulean blue


Jim said...Wondering same thing-why so green in just the pathway like area. beautiful photo.

I'm pretty sure it's a stream. I'm thinking maybe from a spring in the arboretum.

tim in vermont said...

I had an on and off girlfriend in college who was mainly a lesbian. When I first knew her, by heart would actually skip a beat when she walked into a room. She was an obvious lesbian you would recognize as one if she was in a TV show, for example, by the way she dressed, etc. She was quite pretty though.

I was with her one time and she got taunted by somebody driving by in a car. This was the '70s. So I would never say that anti-gay hatred is a made up thing, but the two crimes are in no way the same thing.

Given the history of reporting of hate crimes recently, I have to be skeptical of the one without clear evidence.

irishguard said...

This is Watercress

Saint Croix said...

Saint Croix, cobalt blue is a deep, rich, intense blue,

I think Monet was a big fan of cobalt blue, so that's why I bought it.

Maybe I got acrylic instead of oil. I was really unhappy with that paint. It just wasn't blue enough.

Saint Croix said...

I was "blue period" from beginning to end. In a few I added white, or black. But mostly it was blue.

I tried to do a red painting, because I wear red all the time? I hated the red. Did not work at all. Wasn't even interested in red. Weird. I must have a dozen red shirts and no red paintings.

So in my life I am passionate intense red guy. But in my art? I am blue.

George M. Spencer said...

That new movie Kingsman?

It "takes aim at ultraconservative America by setting a brutal, madcap massacre scene within a church filled with hate-spewing fundamentalist Christians," says The Daily Beast.

"Madcap."