July 3, 2017

It's hot as hell in Madison, Wisconsin.

102 comments:

Bob Ellison said...

That's a great app! I love the "nearly the same" concept.

It was 120F the other day in Phoenix. They don't say "feels like only 114" around there.

DKWalser said...

In Mesa, Arizona, we'd be breaking out the winter coats!

Michael K said...

75 in Tucson with "Thunderstorm" predicted. Yea !

Monsoon coming. Only 102 today.

Anonymous said...

Beastly weather.

Original Mike said...

I use WeatherUnderground and UW's SSEC. WU's forecast graphic is superior (especially since UW SSEC's broke) but SSEC's radar presentation is far superior.

tcrosse said...

It's a dry heat.

Fernandinande said...

STEPHEN Hawking fears Donald Trump’s decision to pull out of the Paris climate change agreement** could be the “tipping point” which wipes out humanity and turns our planet into a living hell.

“We are close to the tipping point where global warming becomes irreversible. Trump’s action could push the Earth over the brink, to become like Venus, with a temperature of two hundred and fifty degrees, and raining sulphuric acid,” he told the BBC.

++

** Giving money to scammers has a tremendous influence on the climate.

great Unknown said...

That's the intellectual climate in the city.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Seriously? This is a joke right?

80 would be a blessing. It is forecast to be 95 at least every single day for as far as they can see. 2 weeks of Hell.

Normally, I would give Madison a break on the humidity issue, but right now the humidity is 77% at 6:40 am and will be this way all day and the rest of Hell week. At least we, in the mountains, cool off at night. Unlike the Sacramento Valley area where it is hot at night and damned hot during the day.

Some people want to blame global warming. We call it Summer and it is our right to complain about the heat. Same thing for the Winter.....bitch about the cold. Can we never be happy :-)

Fernandinande said...

"Professor Hawking fears technology will wipe out humanity and has called for global government to defeat killer robots."

Original Mike said...

"Seriously? This is a joke right?"

Yes, DBQ, it's a joke.

MAJMike said...

Currently 77 degrees F in San Antonio with a forecast high of 95 degrees F.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

ON the plus side. I love thunderstorms. The relief after the storm when the temperature drops is wonderful. The lightening is (usually) a few miles off in the mountains surrounding us. Mother Nature's fireworks show. Thunderstorms are exhilarating!

The negative, is that there will probably be more wildfires which means 95% and choking in smoke.

donald said...

I was umpiring a baseball tournament this weekend in Peachtree City. Yesterday, we had a team from Massachussetts playing a team from
Pennsylvania. It was about 92 and you could see the moisture in the air. I had the plate. My 23 year old partner (A solid 40lbs overweight dropped in the 4th and I mean dropped). Both catchers failed to finish and the pitchers were done after a couple of innings. These were among the best 17 year old baseball players in the country, they were incredible athletes. I finished the final 3 innings by myself, and I wasn't just sitting back there getting angles. . I got off the field, got into the locker room and vomited for about 20 minutes. Still had two More games after that.

The director of scouting for the Red Sox was right behind the backstop where I was working the ammonia towel and water. Told me I was the toughest guy in Atlanta for the last half of that game.

I ain't into the heat anymore and should have moved to Oregon when I had the chance.

Bob Boyd said...

"It's hot as hell in Madison, Wisconsin."

She can't mean the temperature. She must be talking about all the men wearing shorts.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

95 degrees....not percent.

/doh

Original Mike said...

My next door neighbor had her roof replaced two weeks ago due to hail damage from last fall. Yesterday, we had hail.

I'm Full of Soup said...

I heard the ocean temp at the Jersey shore was only 59 degrees. Is that why Gov. Christie was there perhaps hoping the cold ocean temp would shrink some of his blubber?

rcocean said...

"IT cools at night"

That's the great thing about the West. I've never been able to tolerate the nighttime heat of the South and NE.

Of course, in Las Vegas "cooling off" is relative. It goes from 105 to 90.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Tied with a 30-year average? Nowhere near a record? I don't think this is as hot as hell.

rcocean said...

Google maps are great. we were thinking of a trip to Atlantic City but after seeing the place on google maps, we're going to skip it. What a dump!

Michael K said...

"ON the plus side. I love thunderstorms. The relief after the storm when the temperature drops is wonderful. "

I do, too. When I was a kid in Chicago, my father and I slept every summer night on a screened porch we called "the sleeping porch." The windows on three sides would be open. On hot nights, a thunderstorm would come in and cool everything off. I loved it.

Meanwhile my mother and the dog would be cowering on the basement steps.

Michael K said...

The nicest thing about California was that, no matter how hot the day, it always cooled off at night.

Sadly, that is the last good thing about California and it's not enough.

Etienne said...

I was stationed in Iceland for a year, back in the 80's.

I brought my bicycle with me. Which was funny, because I only knew of two bicycles on base.

The reason bicycles don't work very well in Iceland, is the wind. In the morning, going to work, you have a headwind, and the pedaling is very difficult.

In the evening when you go home, you have a headwind.

I tell you, the pounds just come off your body after a couple of weeks of that!

It is unsustainable though. The wind is torture. It drives you mad. Within weeks you will be riding the bus like everyone else.

mockturtle said...

Screwtape reports that the current temperature in Hell is 230 degrees F.

Meade said...

"Beastly weather."

Mark it.

Nonapod said...

The average surface temperature of Venus is around 864F, it makes hell look cold.

Robert said...

19.2 C - a nice temperature.

Now 66.6 C? That would not be good.

Robert,
Winnipeg, Manitoba

Ralph L said...

Sweat me a river

we called "the sleeping porch."
They were thought to be healthy (prevent TB), but down here it was also for the heat. Grandma said she'd wake up with snow on her face.
My house and my g-grandparents' second house each had two sleeping porches (stacked on the other house).

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

82 is hot as hell?

OK.

It's going to be mid to high 90's here all week. Fire danger high. Dust level - epic.

Ralph L said...

Etienne, I believe some of the teenagers ride their trick bikes backwards. Problem solved.

sunsong said...

We'll be 101 today!

Dust Bunny Queen said...

My grandmother's house in Ann Arbor had one of those wrap around screened porches. I have fond memories of all of us kids/cousins being allowed to sleep on the porch. On cots or just mattresses on the floor. It was great fun. Like a big slumber party.

Probably that was the idea.....get us kids out of the way so the adults could have their own adult get together, sans kids.


The issue with the abnormal high humidity in our area is that very few houses have A/C. When the normal humidity is 10% or less, we rely on evaporative coolers....aka swamp coolers. They are cheap to run, just the cost of running a fan and a little water pump. They create a nice cool and slightly moist interior environment. Many commercial places also rely on swamp cooling.

When the humidity is high, they don't work. When the temperature approached 100 degrees, they not only don't cool, they pump hot humid air into the house. Yuck.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Aw, sheesh, it's just the Number of the Beast.

MadisonMan said...

The lightening is (usually) a few miles off in the mountains surrounding us

(Sigh) (Link)

Bob Boyd said...

Forehead slap.

Martin L. Shoemaker said...

Not quite. It's 68 in Hell (MI).

Ralph L said...

Boyd, you are not alone
(check six)

whitney said...

I was curious about your first entry with a Satan tag. Here it is from 2004.

A while back I typoed "Demoncratic" for "Democratic" when writing about the convention. Now, the New York Times, of all newspapers, is comparing the Democratic Convention to the assembly of the fallen angels in "Paradise Lost." The source of the comparison is Milton scholar Pitt Harding:
When the devils convene in Pandemonium, a hall even more chaotic than the FleetCenter, their base is energized with rage against the militarist they blame for unfairly defeating them and ruling dictatorially. There are deep divisions in the party - some want all-out war with God, others are doves - but Satan unites them ....

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@ madison man.

LOL. Thanks. I needed a visual to be able to remember how to spell that! I'm serious. Thanks.

Lose/loose....I envision a rope for the latter spelling, and that the two O's represent the loops of a rope becoming uncoiled or....looser.

Fernandinande said...

Robert said...
19.2 C - a nice temperature.


19.2 is the shoe-size of The Beast.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Hey DBQ. I recently had a Mitsubishi single room air conditioning unit installed upstairs. I love the thing. Super quiet, (both the unit inside and the condenser outside) and even though it's only for one room (the sweltering loft) the cold air drops into the rest of the house. Most hot days, I don't even run the big noisy expensive main A/C unit.

mockturtle said...

DBQ, I remember my grandparents' house in Colorado had a screened-in balcony and my brother and I would sleep there when we visited. Great for storm watching and oh, so comfortable.

MayBee said...

It took me over an hour to get this joke.
Good morning.

Etienne said...

When my daughter was small, I was doing a quick bearing change a V-8 engine, and she was handing me the parts. I asked her which is the next rod?

You see I had marked each rod and piston, so they would go back in the same hole.

"Number 9 daddy!"

Number 9... Number 9... Lennon comes to Mind...

Okay darling, where does number nine go?

"I don't know, after number 8 I guess??"

But if I only have 8 cylinders, where could we put it?

I could see her gears turning, as the puzzle intrigued her. She then giggled
and said "Oh! it might be Number 6!"

Aha, I think you're right! I have a hole for number six...

Which should give you pause about anything the Disciples said.

Hey Peter, is that 666 or 999?

Hell I don't know Simon, let's call it 666, because my mother lives at 666 West Jerusalem Ave.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@ mockturtle

Screen porches rule!

One of my "wants" is to convert one our decks off of our bedroom into a screened room....kind of like this . We could sit outside on a warm night and not be eaten alive by mosquitoes, get a nice breeze through the french doors and maybe even have a small hot tub in the winter, cool tub in the summer. Ahhh wishes.

However, wish in one hand and you know what in the other :-)

Laslo Spatula said...

Just wanted to say that Althouse has been on a roll of late.

Not to say there was something wrong before -- just that there have been some great dissection pieces, some wonderfully quirky stuff, sly good humor, even cats -- retirement seems to have her fresh and firing on all cylinders.

Thank you for what you do, Althouse.

I am Laslo.

mockturtle said...

DBQ, my little winter home in AZ has a full-length screened porch. Wind-driven dust is a given for the area and when I return this fall I'll probably have half an inch of it to contend with but that's what my heavy-duty shop vac is for.

Big Mike said...

@DBQ, they seem nice, but be careful. Forty-something years ago the wife and I, fresh out of grad school, bought a fixer-upper in a nice neighborhood. One of its features was a screened porch that faced east, with exposures north and south. It was a lot of work to replace rotted wood, and torn screens, and there turns out to be a lot of annual maintenance on the screening -- more than you might expect. But the worst part was the base, which was concrete, and so the floor got too hot every summer. For s lot less money you can install ceiling fans in the house.

traditionalguy said...

Rain, rain go away. Georgia is a becoming rain forest this year. And you cannot plant and grow crops in mud and standing water. Or install sod in new homes. If this keeps up, moving to Arizona will seem attractive. ..Can we bring our Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson statues with us?

Rusty said...

I just want to know how YOU know how hot hell is.

Anonymous said...

Doc K. I lived in the Amador-Livermore Valley for many years (SF Bay Area). The valley runs East-West while almost all Cal valleys have a North-South orientation. The result was very hot days with a strong wind arising about 4pm everyday to flush the valley out. You'd think that was great. And it is, for sleeping. But if you want to take advantage of the fine weather and, say, have dinner outside you were screwed unless you had a substantial jacket or sweater and don't mind chasing napkins across the lawn.
Now that we have moved into the Sierra Nevadas we still have hot days and cool nights, but we can sit on the porch and enjoy a glass of wine long into the night.

I bet DBQ can testify to that as well.



Bruce Hayden said...

Supposed to beak 100 up here in NW MT late this week. Ditto for N ID, an hour from the Canadian border. Up until now, we have been comfortable indoors by opening the doors in the morning and late evenings. Expect that I will have to drag out the room A/C unit in a day or two for the master bedroom. But anytime I bitch too much, I check my thermostat app and note that the A/C units back in PHX are running full out to keep that house at 80.

Gotten spoiled. Grew up in Golden, CO (home of Coors beer), and never remember being hot in the summers. It was only when I started spending summers in the mtns when in college that I noticed it. Shorts during the day, and light jacket at night in the summer was perfect, and if you get hot, just get higher. Our place there in Summit County (CO) is 9k feet, but you can actually see 14k feet peaks from there, and 12k is a 20 minute drive up to the top of Loveland Pass. Back to growing up - it was only moving to D.C. In my mid 20s when I first realized what bad heat meant. First summer there I didn't have A/C, and found that I couldn't fall asleep until maybe 1 am, when it had cooled a bit. It was supposed to have been a cool summer. Right. It is all relative.

Original Mike said...

This is the third summer we are without AC (I'll get around to replacing it someday). But we do have a screened in porch.

I had just bought this house when a friend from California (Palo Alto) visited. We stepped out onto the porch and he looked puzzled. Eventually he asked, "What's this for"?

They don't have mosquitos in Palo Alto.

Howard said...

55 to 70 all week. Sweater weather in the morning, no air conditioning required. I guess that's why the median housing price is $800K. Dontcha just luv the free market?

Michael K said...

Now that we have moved into the Sierra Nevadas we still have hot days and cool nights, but we can sit on the porch and enjoy a glass of wine long into the night.

Tucson is mostly like that but not the past month.

I have had houses over here for years but this is the first time for a permanent move.

I told my wife it is usually cooler at night and never goes over 105 in summer.

I'm in big trouble.

Unknown said...

Laslo said: "Thank you for what you do, Althouse.

I am Laslo."

What you said, Laslo.

Happy Fourth to all.

Michael K said...

"Dontcha just luv the free market?"

I dunno. California is nowhere near that.

Lots of NIMBY zoning rules and construction costs that are in the stratosphere.

While I lived in CA I went through two housing bubble collapses. Have you ?

When do we get to see that DD 214 ?

JAORE said...

I'm relaxing in my summer home here in Alabama.

We have it all; heat AND humidity with a near certainty of thunder storms.

Matt said...

*Clapping heartily* Well played, ma'am. Well played, indeed. lol

southcentralpa said...

I'll never forget when they wanted us to work on a motor in a vent space over a engine room (on a naval vessel) with the boiler lit off. Medical came down with the heat-stress meter and got a reading of 160F. The chiefs got into a heated argument as to whether it was actually 160F in there or whether that was only as high as the meter went.

Surely, you've opened the oven and felt the wave of heat that escapes? It was like opening the oven and then getting in. We broke into three groups, and we would spend twenty minutes working and then 40 minutes drinking Gatorade made with twice the water it says on the package (half-strength). (Pro tip: the Navy has done a lot of research on heat stress, and if you're working as opposed to doing vigorous sports, half-strength Gatorade is what's best. It really works.)

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@Livermoron

Now that we have moved into the Sierra Nevadas we still have hot days and cool nights, but we can sit on the porch and enjoy a glass of wine long into the night.

I bet DBQ can testify to that as well.


Yes, I can. Our deck with the view faces East overlooking the river, so we get some nice afternoon shade. We also had those prevailing winds...from west to east every day. Fortunately protected by the bulk of the house.

Indeed. Sitting on the deck in the late afternoons, enjoying an adult beverage, is one of our most favorite activities.

Yancey Ward said...

Here in east Tennessee, it has mostly been a cool to normal Summer temperature. The pattern, hot in the southwest usually correlates with cooler in the eastern part of the country. I feel for the Arizonans, but they are welcome to keep their heat.

Saint Croix said...

time for shorts!

Anonymous said...

I just Binged 'weather Hel Peninsula Poland' and the current temperature is 66° F! Apparently Bing doesn't do fractions on their weather reports. Close enough?

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I find myself deeply concerned about the recently disclosed personal difficulties and frustrations of a certain Ms. Emily Ratajkowski and have, upon that knowledge, acquired yet another fine example to confirm my deeply held belief that life is simply not fair.

MadTownGuy said...

Whew. 67th comment.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Bob Ellison, we're having a hot June in Palm Springs CA and last week the weather babe had just that kind of graphic. It said today's high will be 123 degrees and underneath "feels like 107." The amazing thing was that later in the week it was 107, which felt surprisingly cooler. I'm afraid I'll turn into one of those locals that wear a sweater when the Mercury dips below 70!

M Jordan said...

666 is the mark of the beast, not Satan. It's really code for Caesar Nero.

He was a real dick.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

DBQ, we have both AC and an evaporative cooler. Amazing how well it works when the water flash-dries at 10% humidity.

PB said...

He'll is 666 degrees Fahrenheit!

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@ Mike

It is all about the humidity. I once had to go to St Louis for a convention of brokers because that was were the company headquarters was/is located. It was muggy!!! about 82 degrees and probably 90% humidity. For days. Thunderstorms. It felt like stepping out of the hotel into a big sweaty sauna....while wearing business suits, heels and nylons. I thought I was going to melt away. Forget wearing make-up or keeping your hair-do intact.

On the way back we stopped to change planes in Phoenix. Stepping out of the still muggy plane into that refreshing and DRY heat of 106 degrees in Phoenix. What a relief!

I'll take really hot and dry over medium hot and muggy. At least your sweat will evaporate instead of clinging to you like a stinky wet towel.

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ccscientist said...

Actually 66.6 is 1/10 as hot as hell.

mockturtle said...

I'm in Western Washington [State] right now where it is 61 degrees F. I'm freezing to death.

mockturtle said...

Full Moon, what is it with California and litter? I've never in my life seen so much as I did there a couple of years ago when I traveled through. In campgrounds I spent much of my time picking up other people's trash but it was a losing battle. Disgusting.

mockturtle said...

I'll take really hot and dry over medium hot and muggy. At least your sweat will evaporate instead of clinging to you like a stinky wet towel.

Me, too, DBQ! And speaking of wet towels, I hung up my microfiber hair turban after washing my hair on Saturday and it's still not dry.

sinz52 said...

It was 112 degrees when I visited Tucson on business during one summer.

At the rental car counter, they told me to put a sun shade behind the windshield when I parked the car, or else the dashboard might melt.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

mockturtle I'm in Western Washington [State] right now where it is 61 degrees F. I'm freezing to death.

We have learned, the hard way, that when it is really really hot inland, going to the coast is a bad idea. The inland heat pulls in the coastal fog. So you go from hot sunshine to freezing your butt off. Plus the fog makes it so that you can't see anything or enjoy the ocean, coastal vistas. Grey wet cold fog.

Spring and Fall are the best times for the coast or days where it is only a balmy 80 in the inland valley.

tcrosse said...

A local TV weather guy here in Las Vegas has the CarMometer to show how hot it gets in a car parked in the sun. It is now legal to do whatever necessary to save a child or a pet stuck in a hot, parked car.

MadisonMan said...

They don't have mosquitos in Palo Alto

Boy Howdy they're everywhere here now.

Michael K said...

Phoenix is hotter than Tucson and I had never seen anything over 105 here until this last month.

Of course, my previous experience was mostly long weekends not in summer.

The hot inland and sea breeze thing is why "June Gloom" covers southern California until about now.

Sailing we often made use of the milder cases in April. Hot inland meant a pretty good sea breeze.

We are still unpacking boxes from the move and our enthusiasm took a jump with the hot weather to get the cars into the garage.

We replaced the entire floor and the books were still in boxes in the garage until the floor was done.

Michael K said...

It is now legal to do whatever necessary to save a child or a pet stuck in a hot, parked car.



Some passersby saved a baby in a Walmart parking lot here last weekend.

It was 105 and the parents were shopping. They had forgotten the baby was in the back seat.

This goes with my theory that most of these infant/hot car deaths are related to the laws requiring infant seats in the back seat.

The air bags kill more kids than they save,

The parent forgets the kid is in the back seat. One in Irvine a couple of years ago was a professor who forgot he was supposed to drop the kid off at daycare. Drove to the office and the baby died.

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Anonymous said...

Our house has a huge Valley Oak tree casting shade on it all day. Even in 110F the house stays under 80F if we close it up in the morning and open it up in the evening. We haven't used our two whole-house AC units in almost 10 years.
We did have to run from a forest fire though. And this is California.
So it ain't poifect.

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donald said...

It's a demographic issue on that trash thing in California.

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mockturtle said...

Full Moon explains: My biggest complaint is freeways. It is disgusting. Been that way for awhile. Has to do with how the govt allocates funds, no doubt. Freeway clean up consists of occasional crew picking stuff up and putting in orange trash bags. Sometime in the future, another crew shows up to collect the bags, generally around the same time trash has accumulated again.litter

It's litterers. No one should be littering in the first place so no one should should be having to clean up their trash. In some states litterers who are reported can be fined.

mockturtle said...

DBQ cautions: We have learned, the hard way, that when it is really really hot inland, going to the coast is a bad idea.

Well, yeah, but my kids and grandkids live here. :-) I grew up here, too.

MayBee said...

This goes with my theory that most of these infant/hot car deaths are related to the laws requiring infant seats in the back seat.


Yes! I had my babies before air bags, and it was so nice to have the car seat in the passenger seat! They could see us, see our faces, we could hand them something if they needed it.

Fen said...

BREAKING

Trump Tweet: We stand ready to help Charlie Gard

HELL YEAH BABY!

Robert said...

Fernandinande said...

19.2 is the shoe-size of The Beast

But only Prada.

donald said...

I went to Oregon last year, last Saturday in July. I was happy, it was just so hot here and I couldn't handle it anymore.

It was 105 or so. The hottest damned day in recorded history. I was crushed, however two days later I was in the central coast, walked over a dune in I believe Newport (?), it was still upper 90's, a minimum 30 degree difference, rainy, huge winds. It was glorious.

Quaestor said...

sunsong wrote: We'll be 101 today!

Either sunsong and her tapeworm will have completed their first year of their second century of life sometime today or she's talking about the weather, a subject people discuss when the brain well runs dry but the mouth carries on regardless.

No doubt sunsong blames Donald Trump for the weather. Fair enough, but only if Trump gets all the credit for the economic climate. Lately the disgruntled progs (when are they not either disgruntled or self-adulatory?) complain that Trump is unfairly getting the credit for the accomplishments of Obama. And they absolved Obama for the poor economy and skyrocketing debt growth which was characteristic of his term by blaming it all on the previous Administration. Let those so inclined remember these infamous boasts: [If] we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.. By the standards Obama set for himself he was a total failure as Chief Executive, was he not? Else why comment on the weather?

Mark Caplan said...

I gather "hot as hell ..." is supposed to be a joke, since mid-80s in summer isn't normally considered hot, but what's the joke? I hope that wasn't the joke.

Bob_R said...

Pete and Lou have heard.

Kalli Davis said...

Theologically speaking, 666 doesn't represent Hell; It represents the AntiChrist. a future man and world leader who is filled and empowered by Satan himself. However, saying it's "hot as the AntiChrist" is not that catchy.

Michael K said...

Freeway clean up consists of occasional crew picking stuff up and putting in orange trash bags.

My middle daughter's first words were "Orange Bags." She would see them along the freeway.

My younger son's first words were "Papa Car" every time he saw a Mercedes. His grandfather had one.

Amazing what kids see.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Conservative meteorologists.

How cute!

Achilles said...

The Toothless Revolutionary said...
Conservative meteorologists.

How cute!


Not quite as cute as someone who can't even explain the theory they espouse in scientific terms ad falls back on bullshit terms that have nothing to do with science like consensus.

tim in vermont said...

Not quite as cute as someone who can't even explain the theory they espouse in scientific terms ad falls back on bullshit terms that have nothing to do with science like consensus.

Bourgeois 'Revolutionary' has a couple of guiding principles:

Don't question authority, it's better that way.
Let others do your thinking for you, it's better that way.

"Never question the consensus, never read the Climategate emails, those politically appointed and politically self-appointed climatologists know what is best even if we plebes don't understand it!"

He sort of reminds me of those cult members who say "There was a minor mistake in the calculations, and the end of the world is really coming!" when the California drought ended.

Unfortunately, "toothless" describes his intellect unironically.

He also thinks "class struggle" is about "class snobbery" and that the big problem with Trump is that he has a trailer park mentality and a lot of money. Then he wonders why Trump has an appeal to the trailer parks. In the New Democrat parlance trailer parks are enemy territory.