November 12, 2005

"A betrayal of the law school's liberal values."

Adam Liptak writes about the way Yale lawprofs treat their own -- graduates Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito and colleague Robert Bork. But why should your opinion of a nominee be any different because he has a tie to your institution? Isn't that cronyism?

7 comments:

Ann Althouse said...

Brylin: Such an immensely important position shouldn't be about your school. It shouldn't affect whether you support or oppose him. And if he's not from your school, it should have no effect either. And it's not an issue of how decent, respectful, or fair you should be either. That ought to be the same whether or not the person is connected to your school.

vbspurs said...

I'ma get on this TV, momma
I'ma, I'ma break shit down
I'ma make sure these light skinned n*ggaz
Never ever never come back in style


Thanks for reminding me why I dislike Kanye West, and why I cannot stand hip-hop.

P.S.: The asterisk is mine. Even when it's not written correctly, I cannot bear to see it written out anyway.

Cheers,
Victoria

vbspurs said...

As the only sayings go:

There are things you can't choose, like family.

There are some things you can choose, like friends.

...and then, there are some things which you choose, which many many others choose as well.

It's not just your choice; you have to take into account many others as well.

It could be a military regiment, or branch. It could be a football club. Or it could be, in this case, one's alma mater.

Usually each alma mater has a culture and ethos which infuses the values of its alumni. When you break the trust which was given you as a member of that institution, the bonds which joined you all, are betrayed.

This is why I could never attend a school like Berkeley. I'd rather be a no-show, than a traitor, because I too am one of those people who dislike disloyal people.

Cheers,
Victoria

XWL said...

I can't believe I'm defending Cal (maybe cause they got spanked by SC, I feel sorry for them), but Berkeley has long since stopped being 'Berkeley'.

It's still left, but the protest culture is just the locals and professors reliving their past (like mold in a forgotten petri dish).

The student body since the 80s has been a plurality of serious-minded Asian and Asian-American students, who are more concerned with the prestige of going to a top ranked public university than they are bringing about a new liberal paradise.

There is a massive disconnect today between the direction of scholarship at a school like Berkeley and the meaning the diploma has to its graduates.

It's not about absorbing the values and culture of the institution, its about proving to the business community (and the student's parents) that you were good enough to be accepted at a highly competitive institution and therefore should be considered a top hire for any position upon graduation.

Icepick said...

XWL, I think you meant 'Berzerkley'.

Victoria, you need to give hip-hop more of a chance than some fool like Kanye West. You need to kick it Old Skool. I used to find that I could win hostile audiences over with The Fat Boys "Crushin'!" Besides having an entertaining take on "Louie Louie", they also have helpful advice on safe sex, and an ode to ... uh ... their nuts. (Somehow I'm certain that Allah knows which nuts I'm talkin' about.) And, of course, hip hop kazoo!

Humor makes for the best intro. You can move on to more serious fare like Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five or Big Daddy Kane later.

Icepick said...

Which reminds me....

Even though it's not an actual version of the song, I think The Fat Boys have the third best take on "Louie Louie". The second best version is by Motorhead (LEMMY RULES!), and of course The Kingsmen did it best.

Ann Althouse said...

Brylin: Well, I think they lose something if they don't show pride in the accomplishments of their own graduates and colleagues. The fact that Clarence Thomas shuns them should be felt as a negative. That it's not says something about them that they should care about. Personally, I think the discussion of Supreme Court justices is way overheated. At the same time, I don't think we criticize them enough. I want more intelligent, engaged argument about their work, not all this personal antagonism. In this vein, I think it's fine for individual lawprofs to oppose nominees and vigorously criticize justices. But it should come across as engaged with legal issues, not partisan pollitics and political agendas.